Tuesday, August 5, 2008

Convincing 9/11 Skeptics

Let us use their own fallacies and words against them, both the cultists lying about the issue and the MSM that is undoubtedly pushing the agenda (we know why).

But first, let's give the defense before the analysis.

See:

Consensus Shattered As Major Scientific Study Says Global Warming Is Natural

So it appears that Arctic ice isn't vanishing after all

Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling

Global Warming gets the Cold Freeze; Global warming hoax exposed by record global cold

Global Warming Censored: How the Major Networks Silence the Debate on Climate Change

The Kyoto Conspiracy

Now, remember, readers, believe a lying MSM before you believe bloggers or your own senses!!!

For the record, COOLER than average SUMMER here!

It all gets to the point of disbelief regarding the agenda-pushing MSM!


"Convincing the climate-change skeptics" by John P. Holdren | August 4, 2008

John P. Holdren is a professor in the Kennedy School of Government and the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences at Harvard and the director of the Woods Hole Research Center.


THE FEW climate-change "skeptics" with any sort of scientific credentials continue to receive attention in the media out of all proportion to their numbers, their qualifications, or the merit of their arguments. And this muddying of the waters of public discourse is being magnified by the parroting of these arguments by a larger population of amateur skeptics with no scientific credentials at all.

What the heck is he talking about?

Where are the global warming skeptics, because they sure aren't in the AmeriKan MSM!


Long-time observers of public debates about environmental threats know that skeptics about such matters tend to move, over time, through three stages. First, they tell you you're wrong and they can prove it. (In this case, "Climate isn't changing in unusual ways or, if it is, human activities are not the cause.")

Oh, I KNOW THOSE STAGES (9/11)!!!!

So, PLEASE EXPLAIN to me how FIRE can DESTROY a STEEL-FRAMED BUILDINGS on THAT DAY ALONE, sir!!!

Please tell me how the LAWS of PHYSICS were altered that day, sir.

If it is SCIENTISTS you need:
ae911truth

Then they tell you you're right but it doesn't matter. ("OK, it's changing and humans are playing a role, but it won't do much harm.") Finally, they tell you it matters but it's too late to do anything about it. ("Yes, climate disruption is going to do some real damage, but it's too late, too difficult, or too costly to avoid that, so we'll just have to hunker down and suffer.")

With all due respect, that is a
Chomskyian philosophy!!!

All three positions are represented among the climate-change skeptics who infest talk shows, Internet blogs, letters to the editor, op-ed pieces, and cocktail-party conversations. The few with credentials in climate-change science have nearly all shifted in the past few years from the first category to the second, however, and jumps from the second to the third are becoming more frequent.

What world is this guy living in? Man, do I ever get tired of the propaganda!!!


All three factions are wrong, but the first is the worst. Their arguments, such as they are, suffer from two huge deficiencies.

First, they have not come up with any plausible alternative culprit for the disruption of global climate that is being observed, for example, a culprit other than the greenhouse-gas buildups in the atmosphere that have been measured and tied beyond doubt to human activities. (The argument that variations in the sun's output might be responsible fails a number of elementary scientific tests.)

Second, having not succeeded in finding an alternative, they haven't even tried to do what would be logically necessary if they had one, which is to explain how it can be that everything modern science tells us about the interactions of greenhouse gases with energy flow in the atmosphere is wrong.

Members of the public who are tempted to be swayed by the denier fringe should ask themselves how it is possible, if human-caused climate change is just a hoax, that:

You know, with all the name-calling, etc, I am now inclined not to believe this guy.

Let's see: Lying, agenda-pushing MSM on one side, truth-telling blogs on the other.

Lying, agenda-pushing MSM on one side, truth-telling blogs on the other.

Lying, agenda-pushing MSM on one side, truth-telling blogs on the other.

I know whom I WILL BELIEVE THIS TIME!!!!

The leaderships of the national academies of sciences of the United States, United Kingdom, France, Italy, Germany, Japan, Russia, China, and India, among others, are on record saying that global climate change is real, caused mainly by humans, and reason for early, concerted action.

This is also the overwhelming majority view among the faculty members of the earth sciences departments at every first-rank university in the world.

All three of holders of the one Nobel prize in science that has been awarded for studies of the atmosphere (the 1995 chemistry prize to Paul Crutzen, Sherwood Rowland, and Mario Molina, for figuring out what was happening to stratospheric ozone) are leaders in the climate-change scientific mainstream.

Yeah, a bunch of globalist agenda-pushers say its real; that'll convince me!!!!

US polls indicate that most of the amateur skeptics are Republicans.

Translation: Republicans aren't as easily brainwashed as DemocraPs!

These Republican skeptics should wonder how presidential candidate John McCain could have been taken in. He has castigated the Bush administration for wasting eight years in inaction on climate change, and the policies he says he would implement as president include early and deep cuts in US greenhouse-gas emissions. (Senator Barack Obama's position is similar.)

The extent of unfounded skepticism about the disruption of global climate by human-produced greenhouse gases is not just regrettable, it is dangerous.

And how about a NEO-CON PLAN for WORLD DOMINATION based on a "New Pearl Harbor" foundation of LIES??

Now THAT'S DANGEROUS!!!!

It has delayed - and continues to delay - the development of the political consensus that will be needed if society is to embrace remedies commensurate with the challenge. The science of climate change is telling us that we need to get going. Those who still think this is all a mistake or a hoax need to think again."

9/11, man, 9-frikkin'-11!!!!!!

I don't even know why this guy is complaining; the prop program has worked.

I saw it at the school; the kids have bought this "warm lemon."

"Activists hail gains for the environment

Environmental activists are celebrating a string of big wins on Beacon Hill during the recently completed legislative session. From ocean management to global warming, "green jobs" to clean energy, it's hard to find a politician or interest group with bigger bragging rights than environmentalists. They were helped by a sympathetic governor, powerful House speaker, and worries about soaring energy prices and the state's uncertain economy. Activists hope the successes pay long-term dividends, from preserving open spaces to reversing the emission of greenhouse gases. Some of the bills are still awaiting Governor Deval Patrick's signature (AP August 4, 2008)."

Hey, what is ONE MORE DAY of LIES to an AmeriKan War Daily and its agenda-pushers?