"Are Polls Deliberately Falsified or Just Not Accurate?"
"John Perna
JBS
Saturday December 8, 2007
Recent polls that, by and large, are being reported as accurate and reliable are actually skewed in favor of certain candidates at the expense of others.
Follow this link to the original source: "Audio Poll Done by IMC Polling (Independent Media Center of New Hampshire)"
The link above is to an audio poll conducted by IMC Polling — Independent Media Center of New Hampshire. The computer generated recording asks you if the primary were in your area today, which Republican candidate would you vote for, and it was followed by instructions to press "1" for McCain, "2" for Giuliani, "3" for Fred Thompson, "4" for Mitt Romney, "5" for Mike Huckabee, "6” for "other or none of the above," and "7" to have your name taken off the call list. That was it. No more options. Other similar polls are being used in other states as well.
Two people who received the phone poll today responded differently: one pressed "7," and was thanked by an automated voice assuring them that they will not be called again. The other pressed "6" and also was thanked by an automated voice telling them they would be removed from the list.
If you take the time to visit IMCs website, in the far left column you will see Ron Paul listed along with all the other candidates, allowing you to vote for Ron Paul or any of the other candidates on their website. You can also view the results which are very enlightening. As this was written (Dec. 6), Ron Paul was leading by an astounding margin. He had 84.2 percent, with Dennis Kucinich next at 6.6 percent, followed by Barack Obama at 2.1 percent. Even with the blackout in the phone poll, Ron Paul is wiping the floor with the rest of them.
In the interest of fairness, in order for any poll to be accurate and credible no candidate can be excluded. It is very intriguing, therefore, to see Ron Paul leading such polls even when the phone component of the poll ignores him completely. The mainstream media have made much of this, complaining that Ron Paul supporters are "hacking the polls." If the media were interested in reporting the real story, they would note that the fact Ron Paul seems always to win by a landslide in these polls is likely indicative of the organizational strength of his campaign — a measure that traditionally has been used to judge the viability of a candidate. In light of this, perhaps it is time for the media to start considering Paul one of the frontrunners.
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I know about that, and the whole thing disqualifies MSM polls!
Especially when you find this:
"Paul Beats McCain in Iowa; MSNBC/Newsweek Censors ..."
"December 07, 2007 Posted by Eric A. Garris at December 7, 2007 04:50 PM
The new MSNBC/Newsweek poll on Iowa puts Ron Paul at 8% of likely GOP caucus-goers, 2 points above McCain.
But both MSNBC and Newsweek, who commissioned the poll, have omitted Ron Paul from the analyses.
Newsweek's article on the poll analyzes it with regard to the top candidates, including McCain, but omits any mention of Ron Paul, who beats McCain in their own numbers.
Chris Matthews, who was the first to announce the results on MSNBC, displayed a chart:
Huckabee: 39%
Romney: 17%
Thompson: 10%
Giuliani: 9%
McCain: 6%
and then proceeded to talk about those five candidates, never mentioning Ron Paul's 8%.
If Ron wins in Iowa, I wonder if they will leave his total off the results?"
Really making me angry!!!
If they rip us off and try to steal this election, they are cutting their own throats.
We are mad as hell and not taking it any more.
Ron Paul is right: It's a movement, and he just happens to be on front of it!
And here is why he is going to win:
"Profiles of "Fringe" People Supporting Ron Paul: P...
"Candidate Ron Paul's devotees a mixed bag" by David Lightman | McClatchy Newspapers
If Ron Paul's supporters got together for a family portrait, it would be one of those pictures in which no one seems to resemble anyone else.
"You have old-school Republicans, the conservatives who backed Barry Goldwater (in 1964). You have the antiwar crowd who are principled non-interventionists," said Jim Forsythe, a former Air Force major who's organized meet-and-greet sessions in New Hampshire for the Texas congressman and Republican presidential candidate.
You also have businessmen tired of government regulation, college students who like his views on holistic medicine and middle-aged folks who don't see Social Security helping them in a few years. There are people who supported Democrat Howard Dean four years ago and others who backed conservative Republican Pat Buchanan in the 1990s."
All now registered Republicans, too!!!
That bond has made Paul one of the more striking phenomena of the 2008 campaign. He's slowly climbed to poll respectability in the early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, and his fundraising now rivals better-known foes such as Arizona Sen. John McCain and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson..... His current success is in part due to the Internet, which has brought together like-minded voters who've never met and probably never would have....
Among them:
THE BUSINESSMAN
David Fischer has run a three-person research firm in Des Moines, Iowa, since 1993. When he started his firm, he had to pay state and federal unemployment insurance and fill out lengthy forms.
Eventually, his obligation to provide payments to the state stopped, because no one at his firm was laid off, "yet I have to file reports every quarter, and I keep getting mail from the government," Fischer said.
"This is a small example of what's wrong with government. There's too much regulation," he added. "I can't even put a Ron Paul sign in my yard without making sure I've complied with all kinds of city and county ordinances going on for hundreds of pages."
THE NEW GRADUATE
Meghann Walker voted for Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry in 2004.
"I didn't educate myself. I was influenced by my friends. When you live in Chicago and you're young, you tend to be a Democrat," the 25-year-old said.
Now she's in Des Moines, helping the Paul campaign, and she finds a lot to like. She has serious questions about the USA Patriot Act, the Iraq war, immigration policy and more, and Paul seems to have a lot of answers.
"I don't want government regulating anything in my life," she said. How about border control, she's asked.
"Look at the Minutemen," she answered, citing the citizen border patrollers. "They're helping to protect and defend our country."
THE SOCIAL SECURITY SKEPTIC
Roger Barr, 50, is nervous that Social Security won't be much help when he retires.
Give him the money, the Newton, Iowa, Internet-technology manager said, and he could invest it. "I am able to take care of myself and my family," Barr said. "But the government instead takes it and gives me all those programs."
Until Paul, he said, candidates forgot that "I am the employer, and the government is the employee."
THE ABORTION FOE
Every major Republican candidate is anti-abortion, though they differ about how far they'd go to outlaw the practice. Paul, an obstetrician-gynecologist who's delivered more than 4,000 babies and says he's never considered performing an abortion, says he'd end federal courts' ability to interfere with state legislation to ban abortions (although the Supreme Court might block him).
Jeremy DeWitt, a Des Moines painting contractor, sees that as an uncompromising position.
There shouldn't even be a debate over where life begins, DeWitt said; "most scientists agree life begins at the point of conception."
THE NON-INTERVENTIONIST
Debbie Monaghan voted for Dean, the antiwar Democrat, in the 2004 Iowa caucus.
She thought then, and thinks now, that the Iraq war is a fool's mission. And she wants the U.S. government to stop getting involved in so many foreign adventures.
"We're spending so much money trying to be peacekeepers," the Hampton employee of Cargill said. "Yet our borders are wide open. Why aren't we spending the money to protect us over here?"
The anti-interventionist theme probably echoes more loudly across Paul's campaign than most, because more than any other issue it illustrates what Paul backers see as the most obvious evil of big government.
Forsythe, a New Hampshire aerospace engineer, spent 12 years in the Air Force, flying missions in Bosnia, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. He was at Khobar Towers, a residential complex in Saudi Arabia, just before it was bombed in 1996. Nineteen American servicemen died.
"The people in Saudi Arabia didn't like the American military walking the streets. They didn't want us there. Their government did," Forsythe recalled.
He'd joined the military in 1990, as the Cold War was ending. He saw the need to defend the United States from the communist threat. But with that threat gone, he found, "we tended to get into conflicts for political purposes. We're not driven by well-defined goals."
Paul understands that, Forsythe said. Grote, the Hampton pharmacist, agreed.
"There's a difference between defense and just going out there and building an empire," Grote said. "Ron Paul understands that, and he has a history of voting that way."
ON THE WEB
Data on presidential candidates' number of MySpace friends: http://techpresident.com/scrape_plot/myspace
Data on Facebook supporters of presidential candidates: http://techpresident.com/scrape_plot/facebook
McClatchy Newspapers 2007"
He is the PEOPLE'S CHOICE, MSM!!!!
Give us what we want in our "democracy," please!
