Update:
"A tip-off from US intelligence helped to foil the terror bomb plot in Germany, it emerged yesterday.
Rolf Tophoven, director of the German institute for terrorist research and security policy, said:
"The first piece of hard evidence on the bomb plot against American military and airbases in Germany was transmitted to the German authorities from American intelligence officials. US satellite systems picked up on electronic contact between Pakistan and Germany more than 10 months ago. From then on, the operation progressed with the clandestine support of the US in the background."
According to the Süddeutsche Zeitung, the US officials gave the Germans internet IP addresses - numbers that can help to locate a computer - and parts of names (The Guardian September 8, 2007)."
[So this WHOLE THING was SET-UP by the Americans!!!!!!!
Oh, Lawdyy, and they told me two days ago that this was all a German operation!!!!
See how the MSM LIE, reader?]
Just following up on the "terror scare."
Government officials just trying to make the case look good, so they can push their police state agenda!
"Germany Eyeing More Suspects in Plot" by KATRIN BENNHOLD and JUDY DEMPSEY
KARLSRUHE, Germany, Sept. 6 — German investigators were trying to build a case on Thursday against a handful of suspects beyond the three arrested in connection with a foiled terrorist attack by Islamic militants, and German officials prepared to debate whether security services should be given wider surveillance powers.
Officials know the identities and whereabouts of several of the seven suspects still at large, some still in Germany, according to the federal prosecutor’s office. Their homes were among about 30 properties raided this week, said Andreas Christeleit, a spokesman for the federal prosecutor’s office in Karlsruhe.
Mr. Christeleit said: “They are not fugitives; we know where they are.”
But the authorities lacked the evidence to arrest them, he said, without adding any specifics. Others, he said, are abroad, and two are known only by aliases.
[Lacked evidence? After following these guys around for nine months?
How could there be areas of the plot they don't know? WTF?
What were they doing while they watched these guys? Something stinks!
Aliases = Agents?]
The three men arrested Tuesday — two German citizens who had converted to Islam and a Turkish resident of Germany — remained in custody. Information that surfaced during about nine months of investigation, which included the monitoring of phone calls and the tracking of the suspects’ movements, led the authorities to conclude that the possible targets included the Ramstein Air Base, a crucial transportation hub for the American military, and Frankfurt International Airport.
[So how could they not have any evidence against these other guys?
They involved or not?]
August Hanning, state secretary at the Interior Ministry and the former director of Germany’s foreign intelligence service, said the suspects were part of the cell that for months had been planning to carry out attacks against American targets.
Mr. Hanning told the ARD public television channel: “This is the network that we are aware of at the moment.”
He added that the cell had been splintered and no longer posed a direct security threat. Nevertheless, he warned that Germany remained a target for Islamic terrorists.
[Mission accomplished!]
Among the suspects still at large are German converts to Islam, Turkish residents of Germany and citizens of other countries, he said.
According to an official close to the investigation, at least one of the men is Pakistani and another is Lebanese. At least one of them left Germany to go to Turkey, but since then he may have traveled elsewhere, the official said. He declined to be identified because the investigation is still active.
As the security forces pursued their investigation, Germany’s 16 state interior ministers were preparing to hold a special meeting on Friday in Berlin where they will try to agree on what new security measures can be adopted.
[A-ha!!! CUI BONO, reader?]
The meeting coincides with a new poll showing that a growing number of Germans believe that they will be personally affected by a terrorist attack over the next 10 years. A report published Thursday by the German Marshall Fund of the United States said 70 percent of Germans said they were likely to be affected by international terrorism, compared with 38 percent in 2005.
[More garbage polls by the MSM!
Either that, or FEAR-MONGERING WORKS!
And that's who cited the poll? Pfffffffttttt!!!]
The interior ministers belong to Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservative party, the Christian Democratic Union, or to her coalition partners, the Social Democrats. They are sharply divided over what measures to adopt.
Moreover, the Interior Ministry, led by the conservatives, and the Justice Ministry, which is under the Social Democrats, are at odds over striking a balance between protecting civil liberties and protecting citizens against possible terrorist attacks.
[Pfffffttttt!]
Wolfgang Schäuble, the conservative federal interior minister, who for months has called for tougher security measures, made it clear this week that he wanted to expand investigators’ reach using highly debated techniques.
[And, CUI BONO, reader?]
The techniques include sending fake e-mail messages with Trojan horse viruses to suspects to
help security agents conduct two types of searches: “perusal” and longer-term “surveillance.”
[I don't have mail!]
Mr. Schäuble has also called for rules allowing investigators to ban some terrorist suspects from using mobile phones to undermine their ability to communicate, in a proposal that appears to be modeled on similar measures already in place in Britain, and for new powers to punish people who have been to camps where they are trained in terrorist methods to attack the West.
[I wonder if these fascist assholes will punish their intelligence and military services for CREATING the "terrorists?"
And I mean LITERALLY, folks!
"Al-CIA-Duh" is a U.S. creation!!!!]
After the announcement of the arrests in the latest case, Mr. Schäuble appeared to be winning more support from his party.
Wolfgang Bosbach, parliamentary deputy leader of the Christian Democrats and the party’s interior affairs spokesman, said in an interview:
“It is time we introduced this special surveillance of private computers. Terrorists are using the Internet to organize conspiracies. We have to be able to monitor what they are doing and planning.”
[Oh, LOOK at THIS!! Yup, the terrorists are on the internet!
Then get the IP server and GO GET 'EM!!! This is SUCH SHIT!
Yeah, the "terrorists" gonna organize a "conspiracy."
Well, THERE ARE NO CONSPIRACIES!!!
I know because MY GOVERNMENT TOLD ME SO!!!!!!!
So please, fascist German shit, don't use that word!!!
As George W. Bush once said:
"Let us not tolerate any "conspiracy theories" about what happened on September the 11th."
There ARE NO CONSPIRACIES, so please don't use that word again, German]
Mr. Schäuble has also won support from Günther Beckstein, interior minister from the staunchly conservative southern state of Bavaria. Mr. Beckstein said Thursday that it was crucial to be able to use spying software for private computers since they would help the security services.
[This is NOT about "TERROR."
Can't stoo-pid Amurkns SEE?]
But Mr. Schäuble’s proposals have been challenged by several senior Social Democrats who accused him of using the foiled terrorist plot as an excuse to introduce tougher security measures.
[You mean, sort of a CUI BONO?
It is the SAME after EVERY "attack."
If the "terrorists" hate our freedoms so much, WHY are GOVERNMENTS taking them AWAY?]
Brigitte Zypries, the justice minister, said she was skeptical about Mr. Schäuble’s plans. She told German radio that clear limits were needed to protect civil rights, the rule of law and people’s privacy.
The Social Democrats, aware of the public’s growing concern about possible terrorist attacks, have to walk a fine line between protecting civil liberties and providing security. For this reason, Sebastian Edathy, a legislator and an interior affairs expert for the Social Democrats, said the Bundestag, Germany’s lower house of Parliament, should wait until the federal constitutional court, the country’s highest court, rules on the constitutionality of a similar online search law that the western German state of North Rhine-Westphalia tried to adopt last year."
[Social Democrats, American Democrats, what's the difference?
A bunch of LIMP PUDS, if you ask me.
Germans more familiar with the "Sig Heil" salute, that's about it!]
"Germany Widens Probe Into Bomb Plot; At Least 7 More People Suspected In Anti-U.S. Plan" by Craig Whitlock/ Washington Post September 7, 2007
BERLIN, Sept. 6 -- Authorities said Thursday that they are investigating at least seven more people suspected of aiding a multinational cell of Islamic militants plotting to bomb American interests in Germany, including two who may have trained at camps in Pakistan.
Prosecutors said they had identified five of the alleged helpers, mostly Turkish and German nationals. But they said they were still trying to decipher the aliases of others who might have assisted three men arrested Tuesday as they transferred bombmaking chemicals from a rented house in the German village of Oberschledorn.
[I thought thet had the guys undr surveillance? WTF?
How could they not know these other roles?]
According to prosecutors, the three defendants in custody had traveled to Pakistan last year to train in camps run by the Islamic Jihad Union, a Central Asian group affiliated with al-Qaeda. Investigators said two other supporting members of the German ring may have trained in Pakistan as well.
[Yes, the Islamic Jihad Union, a group that was unknown and tipped off to the Germans by the Americans.
You smelling something stinking, reader?]
Other evidence has surfaced recently indicating that Europeans are being recruited to attend camps operated by a variety of Islamic militant groups along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.
[Well, it is the CIA's paper. What else would you expect?]
In June, the Taliban circulated a DVD among local journalists in Pakistan that purported to show a training camp graduation ceremony. Among the 250 graduates were more than a dozen white-skinned young men. One Taliban figure in the video was identified as the leader of a small group of German recruits, according to a copy of the video viewed by a Washington Post correspondent.
[Who did the Post get the video from?]
The primary speaker at the ceremony was Mansour Dadullah, a leading Taliban commander:
"Oh, Americans and your allies, these suicide bombers are going to chase you in your countries."
[Pfffffttttt!
Yeah, I remember that video, and I will give it all the due the forged, mistranslated, Pentagon-created video deserves.]
Authorities said Thursday they were confident that they had broken up the group accused of plotting attacks against Americans and that it no longer posed a security risk.
[If you are still trying to find seven guys, how do they know that the risk is gone?
They don't!! This is all a GARBAGE FABRICATION!]
Deputy Interior Minister August Hanning told ARD public television:
"We are trying to identify all of those who were working in the shadows."
[Nine months of surveillance, and there are still shadows?
Germany's security services must suck!]
The arrests Tuesday shocked many Germans, particularly because two of the suspects were native-born Germans who had converted to Islam, including one named Fritz. The case also stoked a long-standing debate over whether German lawmakers need to give police more leeway to snoop on suspects and make it a crime to train at militant camps outside the country.
[So pretty soon they won't just profile dark-skinned peoples.
Next they will be going after "homegrown" Islamic terrorists -- or anybody who happens to be against the policy of mass-murdering Muslims and is empathetic to their suffering at the hands of the USrael!
That's what FASCIST POLICE STATES do!!!]
The three defendants have been charged with membership in a foreign terrorist organization, an offense that was not made a crime until after an al-Qaeda cell in Hamburg planned and carried out the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States.
[Yup, repeat the 9/11 LIE as often as possible, western media.
Well, you AIN'T FOOLEYIN' US no more!]
Authorities had been aware for several months that the three had trained in Pakistan and returned to Germany, but said they didn't have sufficient evidence for a strong court case until recently.
Interior Ministry officials said in July that they knew of at least 14 German residents who had journeyed to Pakistan to attend training camps.
Hanning said at the time: "That these cases are becoming more frequent needs to alarm us. We need to do everything we can to find out who has gone to Pakistan and is being trained there."
[They track these guys all over the world, and now they claim they don't know who is there!
How much more shit you wanna eat, western audiences?]
Additional details surfaced Thursday about the three defendants in custody, although their backgrounds and motives remained sketchy.
Police identified the ringleader as Fritz Martin Gelowicz, 28, a native of Munich who converted to Islam several years ago. Investigators said he was active in radical Islamic circles in Ulm, a city in Baden-Wuerttemburg that is home to many Islamic converts, and had recently attended a vocational college there.
[How come the Post doesn't report -- like I saw on MSNBC yesterday morning -- that this guy was IN THE ARMY!!!!
Sniiiifffff!!!]
The two other suspects accused of plotting against U.S. targets lived in other parts of Germany, and it was unclear how they had come into contact with Gelowicz.
[How can that be?
Unless the German SS DOES KNOW, but won't tell us because Gelowicz is AN AGENT!]
A Turkish national, identified by prosecutors as Adem Y., 28, lived in the central state of Hesse. The other defendant, Daniel Martin S., 21, lived next to a mosque near the city of Saarbruecken, close to the French border. Neighbors said he was a recent convert to Islam.
Another German citizen from Ulm, identified by authorities as Tolga D., 29, was arrested in Pakistan in June. Pakistani security officials said he had sought to attend a militant camp and tried to recruit other Germans for the same purpose.
He was deported to Germany last month and questioned by authorities but was later released."
[WTF? Are you as sick as I am, reader, of being FED THIS SHIT!!
Sick of FALSE-FLAG INSIDE JOBS being touted as "terrorist attacks!"
They are, but it is not "Islamic terrorists!"
It is WESTERN GOVERNMENTS that are CARRYING OUT TERROR ATTACKS!!!
Again, It is WESTERN GOVERNMENTS that are CARRYING OUT TERROR ATTACKS!!!
Get it? Got it? GOOD!!!!]
