Embarrassing. Fucking embarrassing and SHAMING to this country!
"3 Top Republican Candidates Take a Hard Line on the Interrogation of Detainees" by MARC SANTORA
A central tenet of every leading Republican candidate’s campaign for president is one simple and powerful idea: I alone can best defend the United States from the threat of terrorism.
And in recent weeks, three candidates, Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mitt Romney and Fred D. Thompson, have embraced some of the more controversial policies on the treatment of those suspected of supporting terrorism, backing harsh interrogation methods and refusing to rule out the use of waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique, on detainees.
Not only do the three candidates refuse to rule out waterboarding and other techniques that have been condemned, but they also believe the American prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, needs to remain open, and they back the practice of extraordinary rendition, in which terrorism suspects are sent for questioning to other countries, including some accused of torture.
DISQUALIFIED from the presidency, all three of them!
The only leading Republican candidate to condemn each of the practices outright has been Senator John McCain, a former prisoner of war who was tortured in a North Vietnamese prison.
Umm, so did Ron Paul, MSM!
On Friday, Mr. McCain, of Arizona, strongly criticized his rivals and cited their lack of wartime experience, saying they “chose to do other things when this nation was fighting its wars.”
Mr. Giuliani shot back, saying Mr. McCain “has never run a city, never run a state, never run a government.”
WTF does that have to do with torturing people, fascista?
Good Lord! Is that what you did as mayor, Rudy?
TORTURED PEOPLE?
The often-unbending statements of Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Thompson and Mr. Romney on detainee treatment have put them at odds even with the Bush administration, which, under intense pressure at home and abroad, has moved to curb some of the practices, and called in general terms for closing the prison at Guantánamo.
Who wrote this? Nothing like shoveling shit!
Mr. Giuliani often frames the threat of terrorism in graphically personal terms, telling crowds that Islamic extremists “hate you” and want to come to the United States and “kill you.” In that vein, he has been perhaps the most forceful in suggesting that the president must be able to take extraordinary steps to combat terrorist threats.
Yeah, the FEAR shit! Never mind that 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB!!!!!!
Mr. Giuliani, in a recent interview:
“I think the president has to retain ultimate authority to be able to deal with terrorism in a way that’s different than dealing with an armed combatant from a nation state.”
The leading Republican candidates, including Mr. McCain, have largely supported the enhanced powers granted to law enforcement authorities under the USA Patriot Act.
Not Ron Paul!!
But it is on treatment of prisoners that the divisions emerge. Mr. McCain is alone among the top Republican candidates in condemning waterboarding, which has become the litmus test in gauging an openness to interrogation techniques that are widely considered torture.
He is not! Ron Paul!
Mr. Giuliani also joked about another interrogation technique, sustained sleep deprivation:
“They talk about sleep deprivation. I mean, on that theory, I’m getting tortured running for president of the United States. That’s plain silly.”
Oh my God, talk about insane!!!!!
Comparing his fucking shit campaign to TORTURE!!!
And he doesn't even realize the gravity of what he is talking about!!!
What is silly, fascista, is you even sniffing a fartlet of the presidency, you fucking autocratic fascista!!!!!
Sustained sleep-deprivation is described in the United States Army Field Manual on Interrogation as a form of mental torture, and the practice has been ruled inhumane by the Supreme Court of Israel and the European Court of Human Rights.
Then IT'S TORTURE!!!!
Giuliani, in an interview yesterday with Albert R. Hunt on Bloomberg TV:
“Now, intensive questioning works. If I didn’t use intensive questioning, there would be a lot of Mafia guys running around New York right now and crime would be a lot higher in New York than it is. Intensive questioning has to be used. Torture should not be used. The line between the two is a difficult one.”
So he did torture while mayor!
DISQUALIFIED! DISQUALIFIED!
The differences between the leading Republicans on interrogation and the handling of detainees first arose in May at a debate in South Carolina, when Mr. McCain was the only candidate to condemn torture outright.
So did Ron Paul!!
Romney said he would “double Guantánamo.”
Romney is also disqualified:
Mitt Romney's "Flies-on-the-Eyeballs" Guy
Mr. Romney has also said that in the event of an extreme terrorist threat, he would not rule out even the harshest interrogation techniques, echoing comments made by his national security adviser, Maj. Gen. James Marks, who is retired.
When the general was asked, in a 2005 interview on CNN, how far he would go if he thought he could elicit information that would save the lives of either American soldiers or civilians, he replied, “I’d stick a knife in somebody’s thigh in a heartbeat.”
That's a Romney adviser, huh? Well, fuck him!
He sucked as a governor, and he'll be a terrible president!
Mr. Thompson has argued that there are circumstances where “you have to do what is necessary to get the information that you need.”
What the hell does that mean?
Mr. Giuliani’s views on detainee treatment seem to have hardened in recent months. For instance, last spring he said waterboarding crossed the line of what was acceptable. Last week, he pulled back from that stance.
So he's getting worse (Sig Heil)? Isn't that also a flip-flop?
Giuliani, in St. Petersburg, Fla. seven months ago:
“I haven’t been to Guantánamo. I can’t judge Guantánamo.”
"I haven't been president. I can't be president." -- Rudy Giuliani
Now, although he has still not visited Guantánamo, Mr. Giuliani says that he thinks the prison there is a critical tool.
Critics, however, not only condemn the conditions at Guantánamo but also find it unacceptable that the majority of detainees have been in legal limbo for more than five years, with only a handful facing formal charges.
Mr. Thompson was dismissive of such concerns when asked for his opinion at a recent campaign stop in Tampa, Fla.:
“I think that Guantánamo Bay is necessary. Those who have criticized Guantánamo Bay do not come with any alternative.”
Sort of like the WH starting a war against our wishes, and then when we call for withdrawal, they say you don't have a plan to fig our mess.
Nice job, Failure Freddie, of spinning the issue back!
Let's say a building was on fire that I had no part in, Fred -- should I not yell fire, then?
The ONUS is on YOU and the CRIMINAL BUSH REGIME, not on the American people!
